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  • Interviews and Storytelling: Thelma Collinge

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    [start of CD] Winnie and Hilda, we lived next door to each other

    How many rooms did it have, can you remember?

    [pause] It had a house and a kitchen and two bedrooms probably, yes.

    What did your parents do?

    Me dad were an outside worker, building and that and me mother were a weaver.

    Was she? Where did she weave?

    At Jack Bridge Mill.

    Did she do that all her life?

    Yes, she did that after she was married as long as I can remember she were at Jack Bridge.

    What kind of games did you play when you were little?

    Rounders, skipping…eeh what sort of games did we play? I can’t remember.

    Did you have any toys?

    Not many, no not many, happen one or two, but I weren’t a child that had a lot of toys, no.

    Did you have brothers and sisters?

    Yes – I‘d three brothers.

    Were they older or younger?

    I’d two older brothers and one younger.

    Do they still live around here?

    Harry lives at Luton doesn’t he? Yes.

    Did your mother tell you what it was like in the weaving sheds?

    I know what it were like – I went in t’weaving shed when I left school.

    So you were a weaver as well?

    I learnt to weave and then I went machining – sewing, but I learnt to weave when I left school.

    How did they teach you?

    To weave?

    Yes, how did they teach you – what did they show you?

    Well they showed you what to do – like putting a cop on a shuttle and things like that, how to take up ends when an end came down.

    Was it a machine that you worked on?

    It were a loom, we had looms.

    How big was it?

    Oh they were big ones, just normal looms.

    What kind of cloth did you weave?

    Sateen.

    That was very fine.

    It were dull underneath and like shiny on top – sateen.

    When you did a piece of cloth, how long was it – how big was the piece of cloth when it was finished – was it just a small piece like that or…?

    Oh no, it were wrapped round a warp thing – it were like on a roller thing, loads of it. You got it in as a warp you see and you wove it until it were finished and there were yards and yards of it.

    What’s the difference then between a warp and a weft?

    Weft is that what…it weaves with the weft in a shuttle.

    Did you do it by hand?

    Well you used to use your hands to fill the shuttle.

    Did you have to push it through?

    Well you put your shuttle in and then you set your loom on.

    How long did you do that for?

    Oh…happen two years and then I left there and went in sewing – machining.

    [sorting microphone out]

    Did you sew in the same place, the same mill, or did you go to a different mill?

    No, I sewed in the same place.

    Which did you like better?

    I don’t know.

    Were they both good or were they both bad?

    Oh they were both about alike. I don’t think I had a favourite.

    Was it very noisy?

    No, no not really noisy, no.

    Not in the weaving sheds?

    Oh t’weaving shed were noisy, yes, but not sewing, no.

    Some people have told me that the people in the weaving shed, they used to learn –they would speak..

    Oh yes, a me-mo things, talk with their hands.

    Did you do that?

    Well you do don’t yer?

    How many machines did you have to work?

    I don’t know, I think you start with two, and then they go to three and then four.

    Can you remember what your first wage was when you first started?

    I don’t know – it were seven and six (7sh 6d) – seven and six seems to ring a bell.

    What was Jack Bridge mill like – was it big, or a little shed?

    Well it were quite big weren’t it, it weren’t a right little building, no it were a quite big mill.

    How many looms did it have?

    It had three sheds – it had t’lower shed, t’middle shed and t’top shed.

    How many looms were in each?

    Well t’top shed had t’most looms in – in t’top shed they were both narrow looms and broad looms, and t’bottom shed were all broad looms, and t’middle shed were all broad looms.

    Which shed did you work in?

    Well when I were learning, I learnt in t’top shed and then I were in t’middle shed quite a while. You started off with two looms, then you get three looms and then four looms, and I finished up in t’middle shed.

    How many girls or women worked in the sheds?

    Well they all worked in there that left school.

    How many were there do you think – was there like five or ten or loads?

    Oh there’d be more than that, oh yeh.

    How many do you think?

    Oh there’d be thirty of us, oh yeh. Then they started going down to t’sewing shop at Hebden Bridge.

    What school did you go to?

    Colden Council School.

    Did you like it?

    Yes.

    Can you remember any of your teachers?

    Yes there was Miss Livermore, Miss Oxley, Miss Garside. Do you remember ‘em Glenda?

    Somebody said to me that all the teachers – they weren’t allowed to be married.

    Oh I don’t know owt about that. I’ve never heard that before, have you?

    Somebody told me that when they worked in the GPO, you weren’t allowed to be married there – if you were gonna get married, you were out.

    What was Blackshawhead like in those days – were there shops up there?

    There were t’Co-op and Ashmore’s.

    What did they sell in Ashmore’s?

    Well they sold ice cream and sweets and things.

    Were there any other shops?

    Co-op, that’s all.

    How did you get your milk?

    Well I think it were delivered, I think they came round with t’milk.

    Do you know who delivered it?

    Well it would be t’farmer, t’local farmer, he’d have his round, he’d have his own milk round.

    Did you walk to school?

    Yes, oh yes – there weren’t buses then – oh no, we had to walk to school.

    Did you wear clogs?

    Yes, yes, I did wear clogs yes [said very happily].

    Did you wear them all the time?

    Well you did wear them all the time, unless you were lucky and your mum bought you some pumps to put on, but you see…it depends how much money you had didn’t it? If you hadn’t any money, you wore your clogs all t’time.

    Did you wear them in the house?

    Yes, I wore clogs all t’time – they keep your feet warm do clogs.

    Yeh, lots have told me that.

    Did you play in the woods or owt like that, down the rivers or anything, or outside?

    I played outside but I don’t think I played in the woods, no.

    Did you go to church?

    Yes, I used to go to Heptonstall church – vicar Greaves. [laughing]

    What was he like?

    Very nice, yes.

    Did you go to the Sunday School there?

    Yes, I used to go every Sunday.

    What kind of things happened at the Sunday School?

    What do you mean what’s happened?

    Was it just religious teaching or was it sermons, or did you do any kind of recreation – did you play any games?

    Well they were little classes you see and you had a teacher, and as you got older you moved into different classes, you moved up.

    Did you sing hymns?

    Yes.

    Can you remember any of them?

    [pause] I don’t know – well they’d be hymns that everybody sung wouldn’t they? Yeh, I can’t just remember any.

    How long did you work as a sewer then?

    Well I started off when I left school, I went weaving didn’t I? And then I sewed all my life.

    In the same mill – all the time in Jack Bridge mill?

    Oh no not at Jack Bridge mill – down in Hebden we went later.

    Which one?

    …On Central Street, what do they call it?…Salem? Salem Mills, that’s right yes.

    Why did you go down to Hebden?

    Well there were only Jack Bridge mill – if you didn’t want to work in t’mill, well there was no option only to go to Hebden.

    Didn’t you like Jack Bridge then?

    Well happen you could earn more money down Hebden, I don’t know, it were where you could get most money in them days really when you were younger weren’t it? You went where t’money was.

    When did you leave school?

    Fourteen.

    Did you get married or have children?

    I got married yes, and I had one boy.

    What was his name?

    Roy.

    Is he still in Hebden?

    He’s in Cragg Vale. Not far. Not far, no.

    What does he do?

    [chuckling] What does Roy do? [to Glenda Gibson in same room]

    GLENDA GIBSON: He’s retired – he were an Environmental Health Officer.

    TC: He were an Environmental Health Officer but he’s retired.

    Did you know Betsy Collinge?

    Yes I knew Betsy, she lived up Blackshaw didn’t she? Yes I knew Betsy, yes. She used to go to Blackshaw Chapel.

    Was she related to you?

    No, she weren’t t’same Collinge – there’s a few Collinges.

    Did you have a nickname?

    Me?

    Did the Collinges have a nickname?

    I don’t really think so, do you? I can’t think we had a nickname.

    GG: Collies?

    TC: I don’t know.

    One or two have told me that particularly Greenwoods and Sutcliffes because there were so many, they used to give them little nicknames. I was just wondering if Collinge…

    I don’t think there were so many Collinges to have nicknames…I can’t remember. [sorting wires out]

    When did you get married?

    At Heptonstall Church.

    And what year?

    Oh dear me! I don’t know what year I got married, I don’t know…

    I’d like to ask you about special days, like at Whitsun – what did you do at Whitsun, Whitsuntide?

    We used to go hiking at Whitsuntide and that yes [said happily].

    Where did you go?

    Well mostly over to Townley in Lancashire, we’d walk it happen to Townley at Whitsuntide.

    Did you just do the walk or did you do anything else when you were there?

    Well, me mother and father they came from Worsthorne, and then we should go into Worsthorne to the relations we’d have there and see them.

    What did you do at Wakes Week?

    Not a lot – we never had holidays, no we just played at home, we didn’t go on holidays.

    When you got married and had your child, did you go anywhere on Wakes Week?

    Oh when I got older we used to go on holidays yes, but when I was younger and that we didn’t go, but as I got older, you know got a boyfriend and got married I used to go on holidays every time.

    Where did you go?

    Well I don’t know – we went all over. We didn’t go abroad a lot, but we should go – it depends what time of t’year it was whether we went like to Scarborough or Blackpool or if we went further away you see, yes.

    Did you do anything special at Christmas?

    I don’t so – we should be getting all ready for Christmas at home.

    What kind of things did you do to get ready?

    Well we used to make plum puddings and stuff like that you know, yes [said happily]

    Did you like plum pudding?

    Oh yes!

    Did you used to have a Christmas tree?

    Yes.

    Did you decorate it?

    Yes!

    What did you put on the tree?

    Well we’d all sorts of little things – well I think it originated, it were me dad’s and he had a lot of things on it and then I had but not as many and then mine come on it and then if we went anywhere and saw something we liked we should buy it you know, and it accumulated over t’years like that.

    Did you ever go mumming?

    Oh yes, we went mumming every year! We never missed at mumming – eeh yes, that were a big occasion! [laughing] They don’t do that now do they? Eeh yeh we did!

    What did you do?

    We used to black us faces and dress up so nobody knew you, and then we used to knock on the door and when they opened it, we used to push them aside and then go and clean all round t’fire you know, dusting and that and then you used to hold your hand out for money. [laughing] eeh we did that every year, mumming.

    Was it like a gang of you that did it?

    Yes, yes, a lot of young ‘uns used to do that. [excited]]

    Was it boys and girls?

    Yes, yes, and different gangs you know, you weren’t all in t’same gang, they were different gangs.

    So people didn’t mind you going into their house?

    Well you knew which houses to go into, you know – when you knocked at t’door you’d know you couldn’t go in, they wouldn’t let you in, and you knew t’people that would let you in – which houses to go to.

    Why did you do it – was it just for the money?

    [laughing] Money were t’attraction, yes, it were yeh!

    Did you used to do anything on mischief night – can you remember mischief night?

    No I don’t think I remember mischief night.

    GG: Halloween.

    TC: Halloween, yeh.

    Did you do anything that night?

    I can’t remember doing owt on mischief night, no.

    What about bonfire night – on plot night?

    Oh yes, we’d always a plot, oh yes we used to go down t’wood and drag you know, logs and wood and that up to have a plot.

    Did you have a guy?

    Oh we used to make us own Guy Fawkes yeh and dress him up.

    What did you make him out of?

    Well I’d brothers and that, and they had old overalls and that, and we used to tie t’legs up and shove ‘em full of newspapers and that and fill it up you know, and put him a hat on and stick him on top – eeh yes.

    Was it a big plot?

    Ooh yeh, a big plot.

    Was it just your gang, or was it the whole of Blackshaw?

    Well there used to gangs of you, different groups; I think you used to try who had t’best plot, didn’t they? It were a case of whose plot were t’best.

    Can you remember then any old sayings that your mother might have said?

    [pause] eeh I don’t know…

    That’s okay if you can’t remember.

    I can’t think at all.

    Did you ever go maypole dancing?

    No we never went maypole dancing, no.

    Did you know anybody that did that?

    I can’t remember ‘em doing it at my age, but later on they started doing it.

    Do you know who did that – what group did the maypole dancing?

    Well they were a lot younger than me then, you see – I don’t know, but I do know they have done it since, but they weren’t doing it when I were…no.

    Was there any big events in your lifetime that you can remember?

    [pause]…

    can you remember that winter when there was the bad snow?

    [pause] I remember that winter with t’bad snow.

    What was it like?

    Well t’roads were blocked weren’t they, we were walking on t’wall tops, it were all blocked – little narrow lanes. It depends where you lived an’ all didn’t it, a lot of it; if you were off t’main road you used to have to struggle sometimes.

    Can you remember any fires – any mill fires or house fires?

    [pause] No, no I can’t remember any fires.

    Jack Bridge mill – when did that stop? Do you know when that finished?

    I don’t know ‘cos I went working there when I left school and it seemed to continue a while after I left school, but I can’t remember how long it went on, can you Glenda?

    GG: not sure
    TW: late fifties, sixties…
    GG: something like that.

    Did you have chores around the house then that your mum made you do?

    Oh aye, I used to have to help me mother – I used to have to mop t’floor and stuff, yeh I did all sorts.

    What else did you have to do?

    Well dusting, you know – everything that she did I had to help with, oh I didn’t used to get to play out till I’d got me jobs done.

    Was that every day?

    Oh we didn’t dust and clean up every day you know.

    Did she have different days for different jobs?

    Oh yes – she used to have baking and that you know – baking days, and days when she washed.

    Can you remember what days they were?

    …Well washing day were always at Monday or Tuesdays; it would be getting on during t’week when it were baking day – we used to rush home from school at baking day – we used to like baking days! If she’d left some pastry, we could make a cake for usselves, yes.

    Did you like cooking?

    Hmm.

    Did you ever see the Pace Egg play?

    No, no I never went down Heptonstall to watch that – we lived up on t’tops. Did you ever go down to watch it? [to Glenda]

    GG: No.

    Somebody said to me the Co-op had a divvy. What is the divvy? I don’t know what that means.

    Well…it might be t’same as two shillings in t’pound, and same as they’d pay it every six month. They’d add up all what you’d spent in that six months and you’d get two shillings in t’pound back – that was your divvy.

    And they gave you money?

    Yeh they gave you money back.

    Did they change that to stamps then?

    Yes.

    So that’s where it came from.

    I want to ask you about young people today – do you think young people today have the same values that you had when you were young?

    I think they’ve more, don’t you?

    Why do you say that?

    Well I think there’s more money about.

    Do you think they have the same beliefs as you?

    Well I don’t know…

    Do you have grandchildren or great-children?

    I have grandchildren.

    What are they like?

    Thomas and Oliver, two boys.

    Are they in Hebden?

    Yes.

    What do they do?

    Oh they’re only going to school.

    Do you see them often?

    I should say every week, some parts.

    When you talk to them, what kind of things do you talk about?

    Well all sorts of stuff that they do, you know – what they’ve been doing, you know, what’s happened at home.

    What kind of things do they like to do now?

    …Well they seem to be interested in all sorts really, I can’t really just think what.

    What school do they go to?
    [pause]

    Do they live up Cragg Vale?

    Yeh they live up Cragg Vale but they go down to…Halifax, I forget where it is…I can’t think, eeh dear me. Do you know Glenda?

    When you came to Hebden and worked in the sewing shop in Hebden, were there shops near there?

    Well there were shops, yeh.

    Can you remember any of the shops on Market Street, when you went to work at Salem mill?

    [pause] There were that children’s shop – what did they call that?

    GG: Leicester House.

    TC: Leicester House, I can remember Leicester House, yes – I can’t remember t’names…

    GG: Dewhirst’s,butchers…

    TC: Butcher’s yes…..

    When you worked in Hebden, did you still live in Blackshaw then?

    Hmm.

    **How did you get into Hebden Bridge? **

    I had a motorbike.

    Oh did you? What kind of motorbike was it?

    [laughing] oh I don’t know what it was – I should have had Jack here. [sorting wires out]

    Could you fix it – could you fix your motor bike or did your father fix it, or your brothers?

    GG: Was it Jack’s motorbike?

    TC: Oh yes it were Jack’s motorbike.

    Oh right – it was your husband’s.

    Did you ride it yourself or were you just on the back?

    Oh I sat on t’back. We had a bike for a long, long time then we got a car.

    Where did you get your car from?

    Eeh God knows – I don’t know.

    I’m just curious – I’ve just interviewed Mr Shepherd and I was just wondering if you got it from there.

    No.

    I’m trying to think of other days…

    GG: Coronation Day – with torches up Knowle, when they carried torches up Knowle and a big bonfire.

    TC: Oh yes – right at t’top of t’road, it were near our house, yeh just round t’top, yes – they had a big fire, just round t’corner from our house.

    Did you watch it on the telly?

    I don’t think we’d have a telly then would we?

    Can you remember the day Winston Churchill came to Hebden Bridge?

    Churchill come to Hebden Bridge? No! I didn’t know he’d been!

    I think he was only here for two minutes!

    Do you think Blackshaw and Hebden Bridge have changed since you were little?

    Oh yes they have haven’t they, eeh yes.

    How have things changed?

    Well they seem more opened up and know what’s going on more don’t they? You know, I think there’s more younger people and they’ve more interests and there’s more going on.

    Do you think it’s good that it’s changed?

    Yes I do, yes – don’t you Glenda?

    Is there anything bad about the change?

    [pause] I can’t think of any…

    Did you ever go to Nick’s café?

    Nick’s café? In Hebden?

    Yes.

    Now where were that?

    It was on West End, just at the end of Old Gate.

    Oh yes I remember that, I don’t think I ever went, but I do remember it – yes it was there, there were a café.

    There was another woman who had a café on Crown Street.

    GG: Mrs Norland.

    Norland yes.

    TC: Oh Mrs Norland, she used to live up Gorple, she came from Gorple.

    What was she like?

    I don’t know – I only knew her by name, I don’t know her really.

    I believe she worked when they were building the reservoirs – she had a café up at Dawson City.

    Oh yes, yes, she were well known up there, yes she was.

    Did you ever go into the blacksmith’s shop at all on Crown Street?

    No.

    Did you ever go in pubs?

    Yes, we’d go in pubs, yes.

    Which pubs did you go into?

    Well we’d go in any pub.

    Did you have a favourite pub?

    I should think if I were tekking a friend I should go to t’White Lion.

    Why did you go there – what was nice about that?

    I liked the situation of it.

    Was the landlord nice?

    I don’t think I knew t’landlord.

    What was your favourite drink then?

    Eeh I don’t know, I don’t think I had a favourite drink, no.

    So if you went in, what would you order?

    A shandy probably – a shandy.

    Did you go in any other pubs – Top Shoulder – did you go in there?

    Shoulder up Blackshaw – I’ve been in that, I’ve been in t’New Delight, yeh I’ve been in there.

    What were they like when you were younger – like say when you were in your twenties – what were they like when you were in your twenties? Did they change at all from when you first went in to later on?

    I don’t think…you didn’t go in pubs really when you were younger, did you – it’s only like as I got older that it was more popular. When I were younger, you know if you went in a pub, they thought you were awful didn’t they, but as it grew, folk didn’t think owt about going in a pub.

    Did you like to go dancing?

    Oh I loved dancing, yes!

    Where did you go dancing?

    We went dancing Hebden Bridge.

    Where?

    Co-op Hall, Vic Hall, Trades Club.

    How often did you go?

    Friday nights and Saturday nights probably.

    What kind of music did you like?

    I liked it all – no favourites, I loved dancing!

    Did you ever go to Tod or to Halifax to dance?

    No I didn’t go to Halifax, no – there were never nobody to travel with really, you know what I mean.

    [sorting wires out again]

    So what kind of dances did you do?

    Oh I joined in them all.

    What different dances did you do?

    Foxtrots, waltzes…tangos.

    Did you like to tango?

    Oh yeh, I liked tango yes, I used to like all the dances.

    Did you go with your husband?

    Aye but he didn’t dance! He’d no interest in dancing, hadn’t Jack.

    Who did you dance with?

    Well you had to know different people, different folk that go in your gang don’t know – there’s a group of you, you danced with anybody you knew.

    Did you used to have a sing-song sometimes?

    I don’t think so.

    Which was the best dance hall?

    Co-op Hall.

    Why was that so good?

    It were bigger, much bigger yeh. There were t’Trades Club and t’Vic Hall- there were the tree, but t’Co-op Hall were t’best.

    Where was the Vic Hall?

    Vic Hall – just lower than t’Co-op Hall on Crown Street, same side as t’Co-op Hall but lower down.

    Oh the Civic as was. So that was the Vic Hall? I didn’t know it was called that.

    Did you ever celebrate your birthday?

    In which way?

    Did you do anything special on your birthday?

    No I don’t think I did, no – just a birthday; might get a card or two but that was it.

    Can you tell me a little bit more then about the house – did you always live up at Blackshaw, or did you live anywhere else?

    I didn’t live up at Blackshaw, I lived up Colden, I lived at Hudson Fold.

    Did you always live there?

    Then we lived at Higher Edge Hey Green.

    What number did you live in there?

    I lived longest at Higher Edge Hey Green.

    Did you ever move into Hebden Bridge?

    Never, no.

    Did you like it on the tops?

    Well yes I think did. You got used to living on t’tops, you didn’t think owt about it, we just used to live up there and that were it.

    Was there a lot of farming when you were little up there?

    Yes, but it didn’t affect me. I didn’t work on t’farms.

    But there was a lot of it though

    Oh I should think so yes.

    Did you know Mrs Clegg at Blackshaw?

    Yes, she lived down Davey Lane.

    Did she have a farm?

    She lived on a farm, Mrs Clegg.

    What did she do there?

    Well I thought she kept hens, I thought she had hens.

    I know her grand-daughter quite well; I just thought I’d ask and see.

    About the weaving shed – what kind of hours did you work in the weaving shed? What time did you start work?

    I should think we’d start at eight till half past five, or quarter past five happen – it would be half past five I bet, eight o’clock till half past five, and an hour for your lunch.

    How many days did you work?

    We worked Saturday mornings – oh we worked Saturday mornings a long time.

    Can you remember the talking with your hands and your lips?

    Hmm.

    Can you remember how to do that?

    Well like if you were describing something…

    Say to me something like ‘I’d like a cup of tea’ or something like that – can you do that?

    We’d say [Thelma mouthed the words quietly] ‘would you like a cup of tea?’

    Can you tell me a bit about your mother?

    Me mother? She were very strict. She used to boss me. [laughing]

    What was her name?

    Easter, and spelt like Easter – not Esther [spelt it out].

    Was she from Blackshaw?

    No she came from Worsthorne.

    Why did she come over here?

    I don’t know – she came over here when we were little uns, I don’t know why they left Worsthorne. She came with my Aunt Harriett and they got two houses and they used to live next door to one another; my Aunt Harriett used to look after t’children while me mother went to t’mill.

    Can you tell me a little bit about your father?

    Me father? Well he were an outdoor worker.

    You said on buildings – did he work on any farms, or did he just work on buildings?

    Oh he worked on farms – he did all sorts of outdoor jobs, he were an outside worker.

    What was his name?

    Jack.

    What kind of a man was he?

    Well he weren’t a right big fella, just average I should think; he had a moustache.

    Did you do anything special at Easter at all?

    [pause] Well we used to go down t’Crags at Easter, Hardcastle Crags. Everybody seemed to congregate to Hardcastle Crags Good Friday; Good Friday were a day when everybody seemed to go down t’Crags. It were full of folk. They came in at that end and they come in at this end…

    Was there anything special to do there?

    Well no –no, they catered for people, you know – you could get food there and that, but…and there were boats on t’dams and swings.

    GG: roller skating…

    Did you go roller skating there?

    Oh yeh there were roller skating, course there were – yeh I’ve had a do at roller skating

    Did you like it?

    I never got used to it really [laughing], I was always rolling over!

    I thought you might like it, because if you liked dancing, I thought maybe you’d like that as well.

    Yeh well I dare say I did, but we didn’t go doing that much, no – we didn’t go down t’Crags so much.

    Do you remember your grandparents at all?

    No, no I don’t remember me grandparents.

    What was your aunty like who lived next door?

    Me Aunty Harriett – she had two daughters, Winnie and Hilda and she used to look after ‘em and me mother used to go to t’mill when me mother were weaving and me4 Aunt Harriett were at home for when we came home from school.

    So did you all live together in the two houses then?

    Yes, they had a house of their own and we lived next door – we weren’t all in one. They had their do and we had our do.

    Do you know any jokes?

    Any jokes? [laughing] I used to know jokes but I haven’t told jokes for ages – I couldn’t remember ‘em – eeh no I can’t think of a joke.

    Is there anything that I haven’t asked you that you would like to talk about?

    [pause]

    What was it like during the war around here?

    [pause] I would only be in my teens then [pause] I don’t know…

    Did you have to share a room with your brothers?

    Me brothers? Yes I used to share a bedroom with me brothers, yes, because there were only two bedrooms – me mum and dad were in one and we were in th’other.

    Did you have any special talents – anything you thought you could do that was really good?

    [pause] I don’t think I have any special talents.

    Did you have any hobbies?

    I’d have some hobbies…you can’t thing when you should do, can you?

    It could well be that you were too busy to have anything like that.

    GG: You’d sew and bake.

    TC: Oh yes, I liked baking.

    GG: Did you make jam?

    TC: Oh yes, I used to make everything that were going and stuff.

    Did you collect berries?

    Yes if there were bilberries and stuff like that I used to make bilberry jam – owt that were going – blackberries, you could pick ‘em.

    Did you sew your own clothes then?

    Yes I used to make trousers, jeans for myself, yeh.

    Did you ever do work for other people?

    Well probably now and then, but…if they asked me to do something I’d do it, but I didn’t want to be condemned to do it all t’time, you know what I mean, but if they asked me to do it, I would do it for ‘em.

    Did you have good neighbours?

    Yes – yes, I’ve always good neighbours, yes – I’ve had some nice neighbours.

    What was it like then, if you had good neighbours – did you talk to them a lot or do things for each other like that?

    Oh no, we weren’t always in and out of us houses, no not them sort of neighbours, no – they were good neighbours if you wanted…if you’d run out of anything or if you just wanted…you could go and ask for it, but not in-and-out neighbours, no. As I say, if I’d run out of salt or something and I didn’t want to go to t’shop, I’d go and ask for some salt – I could go and ask for it.

    Were there any shops at Edge Hey Green then?

    Yeh there were a Co-op and a little shop – there were a Co-op and then there were a little shop besides and they used to bake at this little shop and make all their own bread and cakes and that – it was nice.

    Can you remember what it was called?

    We used to call it Amy’s. [To Glenda] Can you remember Amy?

    GG: Amy Thomas.

    TC: Amy Thomas, yes.

    When did buses start to go up that way?

    Ooh I don’t know…I couldn’t tell you when t’first bus were…they’ve been coming nearly as long as I can remember haven’t they Glenda?

    GG: As long as I remember – Hebble buses.

    TD: I just can’t tell how long they’ve been coming up – a long time.

    What did you like at school best – what was your favourite subject at school?

    What were me favourite subject at school…well I liked school really, I think I liked more or less all subjects, yeh I liked school. I liked sums, I liked arithmetic – I did.

    Was it a good school?

    Yeh I think it was, yeh.

    How many children went to it?

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